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PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« on: March 03, 2012, 07:31:39 PM »
Okay, so I uploaded OpenWRT to an Asus router months ago, and I used it to host small files for my computer. Now, I found that JamVM was released for OpenWRT, which was a package that allowed to run jar files in a Java Virtual Machine. I wanted to run a Minecraft server from this crappy router, but I realized that it didn't have enough RAM...

Now, I did some research and found out that I can run Ubuntu from a PandaBoard ES. Since it seems like it has good specs, I want to see your guy's opinions, and maybe some facts I didn't know about it.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2012, 07:33:34 PM by dylanweber »
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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2012, 11:29:38 PM »
I'd be impressed to see a router actually run a Minecraft server. Every consumer router in the world are very resource limited. The processors on them are puny. Even if you had the ram to run that java file, I highly doubt you could run a reasonable Minecraft server on any consumer grade router.

Those pandaboards look very cool. My main worry is the processor on that pandaboard is not strong enough, but I don't have a good gauge as to how much processing power you need for Minecraft. I can tell you that my server has a dual core 2.4GHz processor, and runs Minecraft just fine.

If you go with one of them, I would highly recommend you get at least 2GB of RAM in one of those if you can, as Minecraft is a memory hungry application on both clients and servers.

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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2012, 07:35:06 AM »
As much as I would love to get something that can handle more, I can't find any reasonably-priced single-board computers with more than 1 GB of RAM...
I did some research and found out that a single person on a Minecraft Server would be about 50 MB of RAM. If I wanted to use half of that... I could have a ten slot server...

Can someone help me find a small computer with more RAM?
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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2012, 08:54:35 PM »
Since days of research yielded nothing truly helpful... does anyone think it is possible for me to unsolder the RAM on the PandaBoard ES and replace it with a 2 GB replacement?
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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2012, 09:23:08 PM »
I do take back my recommendation, as I don't think soldering ram onto the board is a great idea. I made my recommendation looking at how much RAM my Minecraft server is using, and it's using 1.5GB. However, that is because I configured it to do that :P.

I found this: http://www.minecraftserverhosting.org/minimum-system-requirements-minecraft-servers/ and this:The OMAP4430 operates at up to 1 GHz. That processor is a dual core, but I'm still worried that it will become a bottleneck.

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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2012, 11:39:56 PM »
Well, a step above the OMAP4430 would be the OMAP4460, which according to Wikipedia, is the PandaBoard ES. But if I got the OMAP4460, wouldn't I have to connect/assemble the components, such as the RAM, myself?

I think I might drop my decision of getting a single-board computer and just getting a very small computer or building a computer without a graphics card.
Also, I might just drop the MC server idea entirely, because wouldn't having the server up in my home take up a lot of bandwidth? According to that chart, my 4 MB upload/20 MB download isn't efficient enough to hold more than ~12 people.
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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 12:28:06 AM »
I can answer the bandwidth question. Indeed Minecraft does use a bit of bandwidth. I get complaints from users in the server when they're in there and I'm uploading a video.

Check your internet speed, and pay close attention to your upload speed. http://speedtest.net/

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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 02:55:55 PM »

Like I told you, 4 MB upload, 20 MB download.
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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2012, 09:22:49 AM »
Be lucky your even getting that with a Comcast connection. (rofl) and is that the furthest or closest connection test you did?


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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 09:58:13 PM »
That was the closest. Here's something a test from me (Chicago, IL) to Los Angeles, CA.

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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2012, 12:53:22 PM »
What do you guys think about this? Disregard bandwidth.
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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2012, 12:57:04 PM »
That looks like a pretty good box for your needs. I would also use it as a personal file server as well if you buy it.

As for bandwidth, my server starts running into bandwidth problems when more than 5 players connect to it. My internet is very similar to yours actually, so that'll give you an idea of what you're able to do.

Also, if you start uploading a video while people are in the server, people will complain.  ::)

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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2012, 05:27:54 PM »
I only upload videos once a week, and when I do, I could use a setting on my FTP browser to limit the bandwidth being used to upload...
and I really wouldn't want this to be a public server, so I'd probably decrease the number of players to 4 or 6.
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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2012, 06:17:59 PM »
*trips and finds this on the floor*
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Re: PandaBoard ES and Ubuntu
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2012, 09:06:17 PM »
Okay, one last (and I'm sure annoying) question for all of you: If I were to get the computer I linked to in my last post, how would I install Ubuntu on it? Since I don't have a screen laying around, and I've only installed Ubuntu with a screen, I don't know how I would approach this. I don't think the machine comes with an OS, either...
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