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Standard Streaming Equipment
« on: March 28, 2011, 10:44:25 PM »
One big restriction I have at the moment is that my main computer is nowhere close to my TV (on different floors, in fact) but I do have a laptop with the same speed connection in that room. The laptop is significantly less powerful (32 bit, not 64 bit, though both Vista) though and has lately been randomly freezing when I've only been doing AIM and Firefox.

Regardless of this, I do have a computer in the same room...so what would I need to get started streaming my TV (or Wii input - I do have a cable splitter for output) online?
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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2011, 01:33:48 PM »
I took a little bit to respond to this question because I wanted to make sure my answer was good. Here goes.

You will need a video capture card/device to be able to stream. As you may know, the one I use is the Dazzle DVC 100. This is a very high quality composite/svideo capture card. I personally think it's a little overkill for streaming; if you don't intend on recording anything then we can sacrifice some quality for price. :awesome:

Lurking on other Let's Play forums, I've learned that one of the best inexpensive capture devices is the EzCAP. This one costs only $19.99 instead of $39.99 for the Dazzle DVC 100. Here is an example of the quality from the EzCAP, still good enough for streaming in my opinion. :fine:

Whether you go with the Dazzle or EzCAP, we will need to setup it up so that we get a video signal to both the TV and the capture card. We need to split the signal to go to two different places. It is possible that your TV has a TV out ports; use them if you have them. If not, you will need to get video splitters to do the task. I talk about this in an article I wrote for the Dazzle here. Audio splitters aren't too bad; be careful with video splitters. The signal is different and will be degregated if you use a bad splitter. If you're worried you can get an Svideo splitter; they cost a little more than composite video splitters. The best solution is to get a video distribution amplifier; that costs another $50.00 however.  :-\

Now, we need to stream the video signal to a service like www.justin.tv or www.ustream.com. I learned about justin.tv first, but both work perfectly fine. There is a program called the Adobe Flash Media Encoder that will stream the signal from your capture card to the streaming service. (Evilpoptart will hurt me if I don't mention Xsplit right now; it's an alternative program that can do the same thing.) When I get home I'll get a screenshot of my settings I use when I stream.

I stream using my laptop. Here's the laptop's specifications:
Dell XPS m1530
Intel 45 nm Core 2 (1.8GHz)
3GB RAM
nVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS

I would be more worried about bandwidth than computer specifications. If that laptop was manufactured anytime within the last 5 years it should be able to handle streaming. (If you can, give me the specifications so I can give a better answer.)
(Miles, it's called throughput in this case; not bandwidth. Curse incorrect usage becoming the standard.)

Notes:
  • Output as 320x240 so there's no interlacing issues
  • I'm using Virtual Audio Cable to add commentary. Use the Dazzle Audio Device (or EzCAP)
  • To stream to justin.tv or ustream, you need to download a config file for the Flash Media Encoder on your computer. You can get this on your profile on justin.tv or ustream. Then in Flash Media Encoder select file -> open profile, and select the file you got from justin.tv/ustream.

Overall, expect to spend somewhere between $20.00 (just the EzCAP) and $100.00 (Dazzle + Distribution Amplifier) depending on what you buy.
(Are you really going to attempt a Zero Level Pit of 100 Trials?! :ohdear:)

Last but not least
Do you have an Ethernet cable going to your laptop? Streaming works MUCH better from an Ethernet cable than over wireless. That may be an issue if you don't have an Ethernet cable to your laptop; might have to run cable through your house.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2011, 04:18:46 PM by milesluigi »

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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 09:17:37 PM »





Better not forget Xsplit you overgrown chicken! :awesome:
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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 09:34:11 PM »
Yes, there is a literal Internet cable going from my main computer upstairs to the laptop, and we've had a broadband connection for years.

I dunno on specifications, but I think it was manufactured 3 years ago.

Since I already have a recording device, I think a Dazzle wouldn't be best - but I'll look into the others you mentioned

EDIT: My cable splitter actually looks exactly like this:



And it was about $40 to buy...so yes, part of the cost already paid off! :P

I'm going to make a legitimate attempt at Level Zero Pit whenever I get the time, but may be a couple of months.
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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 09:43:27 PM »
Excellent  ;D

That's a Video Distribution Amplifier. That's the best solution for what you need.  :wooper:

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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 09:48:41 PM »
Doing a minimalist run to set up for Level Zero Pit will suck much less if I can stream it ...but it will probably be awhile yet; spring semester ends on May 20
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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2011, 10:31:19 PM »
@Evilpoptart

I don't even get what XSplit is, but that comic makes me laugh.  Is there any possible way we can make that a meme on this site?   :awesome:

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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2011, 02:49:00 AM »
I'm suppose to abstain from doing this, but this made me laugh enough I'll jump on this bandwagon Evilpoptart.
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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2011, 09:16:30 AM »
New meme?
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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2011, 01:28:20 PM »
I can't believe a thread on streaming equipment devolved into a meme...lmao
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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2011, 08:31:09 AM »
Act of god? No? Pleads the 5th amendment? Thats a no too huh? Well how about no tagzies backzies! *books it*  ;D

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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2011, 10:22:17 PM »
My EzCAP will arrive in about 5-6 days according to Amazon. I hope to test it around this time next week.

Thanks again to Miles for the recommendation, I got it for $13.86 total with tax and shipping, good deal.

Also got a 3rd party, 1019 block GameCube memory card (see Unsimplifier thread), and Pikmin 2, a game I decided I need to play finally. Finally using my surplus of gift cards from Xmas...
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2011, 11:11:20 PM »
Three things:
1. HOLY CRAP 1019 blocks 0.0
2. Pikmin 2 is amazing
3. When do you plan on streaming(this is obviously the most important)
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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2011, 11:20:05 PM »
1. Yeah, that's the standard size for a 3rd party GC memory card. It was actually even cheaper than the EzCAP total
2. Hell yes
3. Dunno for now
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Re: Standard Streaming Equipment
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2011, 10:12:31 PM »
The EzCAP has arrived.

EDIT: Got scared when the cords had no prongs, but found two spare yellow-red-white extension cords. Can't find a S-Video extension cord though, but I'll take it.
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